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Start up crash with error code 58

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3 months 4 weeks ago #2642 by ElecMan
Replied by ElecMan on topic Start up crash with error code 58
Sorry I meant I never see the damage bar even if I take damage. (Same for bottom right orange/red steady/dynamic guy, it's not displayed in 1080). And I didn't toggle TOC conversations.
If I use 1600x900 every thing appears. No I have only one monitor (it's a laptop).

Do you have any idea about the DDERR_GENERIC error still on movies play?

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3 months 4 weeks ago - 3 months 4 weeks ago #2643 by Slippery Jim
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I would love to continue to troubleshoot your machine (if you are interested) because it isn't often I get so many unique problems with the mod. Usually people disappear after a few posts and I never get a chance to learn and solve these unique problems.
 

I never see the damage bar even if I take damage. (Same for bottom right orange/red steady/dynamic guy, it's not displayed in 1080)...If I use 1600x900 every thing appears. No I have only one monitor (it's a laptop)
 

The Last Resort mod doesn't change those two items to cause this problem. If you toggle the mod off (top right toggle button on the launcher) you will still be able to choose 1920x1080 in 3D with "vanilla" Swat 3.  If you still get the problem after this it is proof the problem isn't the mod itself.

turn this button to the off position

I have some followup questions to learn more about your laptop:

1) Do you have a dedicated video card in the laptop or is it an onboard video chip? Is it Nvidia or AMD?
2) Do you have dgVoodoo installed?
3) What is the native resolution of your laptop screen?
 

Do you have any idea about the DDERR_GENERIC error still on movies play?
 

Not yet. It sounds like your replacement XVID movies used to work but now they don't when you installed the new version of the mod. Is this correct? Or did your movies never work on Windows 10 for you?

 

I didn't toggle TOC conversations
 

 Just to be clear the key I am talking about only toggles on/off the orange dialog from characters. I think the TOC blue text is always there and can't be toggled on/off.

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3 months 4 weeks ago #2644 by ElecMan
Replied by ElecMan on topic Start up crash with error code 58
Sure I'm in!
My native resolution is 1920 x 1080 60Hz. I have an integrated card, an Intel UHD Graphics 620 (i5-8365U). Windows and every drivers are up to date.

I tried with vanilla swat 3 in 1920 x 1080 and it's the same.
One thing that may be I didn't noticed before: in 1920 x 1080 the reticle is not centered on the screen.. Likely the bottom and right part of the screen is overflowing somewhere. (last resort ON or OFF).
It's not a big deal as it works fine in 1600x900. May be a aspect ratio issue?

Not yet. It sounds like your replacement XVID movies used to work but now they don't when you installed the new version of the mod. Is this correct? Or did your movies never work on Windows 10 for you?
 

No it never worked on win10 (was Ok on my previous win7 laptop). I also tried to manually copy provided movies files into Swat directory.

Then to be sure to have a clean install I restarted all from scratch (swat 3, 2.1 patch, last mod version). I selected movies replacement in new MOD version.
It's odd because I can play files with the native windows player.

I tried dgVoodoo with the v0.7.4 but not sure the setup was correct. I will retry with the video you provided and let you know.

Just to be clear the key I am talking about only toggles on/off the orange dialog from characters. I think the TOC blue text is always there and can't be toggled on/off.

Yes sure.

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3 months 4 weeks ago - 3 months 4 weeks ago #2645 by Slippery Jim
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You are giving me some good detailed info.

Onboard video chips on laptops are a bit of a challenge sometimes with legacy gaming (AMD chips even more so).

If the Last Resort mod is toggled OFF and the game is still misbehaving (such as an offset reticle) that is a problem more with the game itself and/or your computer.

That is very odd that your laptop would have the reticle offset for 1920x1080 but not 1600x900. Both are 16:9 aspect ratio.



No it never worked on win10 (was Ok on my previous win7 laptop).

Ah okay. Microsoft has declared the Indeo Video codec to be a security issue so generally on Windows 10 systems it appears to be de-activated. Swat 3's movies were encoded with this 30 year old codec.

Question for you: have you installed a third party codec pack at any point on your Windows 10 system?




Below is a link for instructions how to install DgVoodoo and gives the settings that work for me:

www.swat3lastresort.info/index.php/fix-framerate-problems

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3 months 3 weeks ago #2646 by ElecMan
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Thanks for the link! I now understand why it didn't worked before, I used to copy the 64bit dll instead of 32bits as my system is 64bits.
But sure, swat 3 was indeed in 64bits. It works but can't force 1080x1920, I will dig into the parameters.

About the movies, I don't understand why I still have the intro crash issue because I have the MPEG-4 variant of movies..
It's very frustrating because I can play some mission but not career mode :-/
I have VLC installed and I tried to install Xvid-1.3.7-20191228 codec.

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3 months 3 weeks ago - 3 months 3 weeks ago #2647 by Slippery Jim
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Thanks for the link! I now understand why it didn't worked before, I used to copy the 64bit dll instead of 32bits as my system is 64bits.
But sure, swat 3 was indeed in 64bits. It works but can't force 1080x1920, I will dig into the parameters.

Your post is confusing to read.

As far as I know, the DgVoodoo .dll files that you use should be the 32-bit versions to match Swat 3 since the game executable is 32-bit.

If your computer is 64-bit you can use the 64-bit version of the DgVoodoo configuration app "dgVoodooCpl.exe" but the 32-bit version might work just as well.

As for 1920x1080 I would recommend NOT forcing it with DgVoodoo (as shown in the recommended settings in my previous post).  Just let the Last Resort mod take care of the resolutions.
 

 

About the movies, I don't understand why I still have the intro crash issue because I have the MPEG-4 variant of movies..
It's very frustrating because I can play some mission but not career mode :-/
I have VLC installed and I tried to install Xvid-1.3.7-20191228 codec.

If you have installed the replacement MPEG-4 movies no extra codec is needed. Modern versions of Windows all support it perfectly.

It is possible the reason why your computer can't play the movies is because they are 640x480. You can play the movies in a media player such as VLC because it displays them in a window instead of trying to go to a proper full screen. Check on your laptop's video driver settings if you can enable 640x480 resolution (or even 800x600). With my laptop I had to manually tick a box in the driver to activate the lower resolutions.

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3 months 3 weeks ago #2648 by ElecMan
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Slippery Jim post=2647 userid=814
Your post is confusing to read.

As far as I know, the DgVoodoo .dll files that you use should be the 32-bit versions to match Swat 3 since the game executable is 32-bit.

Sorry. I hope it is clearer, I tried to setup DgVoodoo before posting here the first post. It didn't worked because by mistake I copied the 64bit version of .dll. Now it's ok I copied 32bits version an I'm able to see DgVoodoo as Swat3 3D adapter. Thanks to your link I realized my mistake.

Slippery Jim post=2647 userid=814As for 1920x1080 I would recommend NOT forcing it with DgVoodoo (as shown in the recommended settings in my previous post).  Just let the Last Resort mod take care of the resolutions.

My second attempt worked but limited to 1280x1024 (I don't know why). I tried various settings.

Today I tried a third time and re set exactly all parameters as yours and.. It works! May be I forgot something last time.
Many thanks, now I have a 1920x1080 smooth game!

If you have installed the replacement MPEG-4 movies no extra codec is needed. Modern versions of Windows all support it perfectly.

It is possible the reason why your computer can't play the movies is because they are 640x480. You can play the movies in a media player such as VLC because it displays them in a window instead of trying to go to a proper full screen. Check on your laptop's video driver settings if you can enable 640x480 resolution (or even 800x600). With my laptop I had to manually tick a box in the driver to activate the lower resolutions.
 
Ok I understand, I looked into my driver an I have the 640x480 and 800x600 mode activated amongst others. I tried to change the whole windows resolution to 800x600 to see if it has an impact but it's the same..

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3 months 3 weeks ago - 3 months 3 weeks ago #2649 by Slippery Jim
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I am very happy you were able to get it all working in 1920x1080.

Now let us tackle the movies...


Troubleshooting step 1:

Start up the Last Resort launcher and go to the 3D Settings Tab.  Untick the box that says "hide different aspect ratios".  Is both 640x480 and 800x600 listed here?
 
 

 
Troubleshooting step 2:

Any chance you can look in the Windows event log for errors:
www.swat3lastresort.info/index.php/event-log-tutorial

Basically you will want to re-enable the movies and cause the game to crash at startup. Then follow the link above to see if Windows 10 recorded the cause of the crash.

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